Noam Chomsky full length interview: Who rules the world now?

Noam Chomsky full length interview: Who rules the world now?


Mr Chomsky that impotence of voters, that
angry impotence as you talk about, presumably you’d say that is what is responsible for
the rise of Donald Trump, is it? It’s pretty clear what is responsible for
the rise of the support for Trump and there’s general agreement about it. If you take a
simple look at economic statistics, the primary support for Trump is coming from mostly white
working class poor people who’ve been cast by the wayside during the neo-liberal period.
They’ve lived through a generation of stagnation or decline. Real male wages are about what
they were in the 1960s. There has also been a decline in functioning democracy, the overwhelming
evidence reveals that even their own elected representatives barely reflect their interest
and concerns. A contempt for institutions, especially congress has just increased, skyrocketed
it’s down single digits often. These are people who, meanwhile there has of course
been wealth created, it’s gone into very few hands, mostly into a fraction of the top
1%. So there’s enormous opulence. Yes indeed and how dangerous do you think
this all is in terms of Donald Trump for example. I mean he has been toning down some of his
most extreme pronouncements recently. He may, if he ever got anywhere near power, he could
be held in check by congressman. How dangerous do you think he is to America?
Well the greatest danger that he and indeed every republican candidate poses is barely
mentioned. It’s kind of reminiscent of Sherlock Holmes’ dog that did not bark. The greatest
danger is – there are two huge dangers that the human species faces. We’re now in a
situation where we have to decide whether the species survives in any decent form. One
is the rising danger of nuclear war, which is quite serious. The other is environmental
catastrophe. Now on these issues Donald Trump and the other republican candidates are basically
uniform. On the threat of nuclear war. And do you believe that Hilary Clinton, the
democratic frontrunner, would champion those issues in a way that would satisfy you?
Not in any way that would satisfy me, but at least she recognises that climate change
is going on and that we have to do something about. Every single republican candidate denies
that it’s happening, with the soul exception of Kasich who says sure it’s happening but
we shouldn’t do anything about it and that’s having an impact. The Paris negotiations last
December were aiming at a treaty, they couldn’t reach it for a simple reason; the republican
congress would not accept it. So it’s a voluntary agreement which means even the weak
standards that we’re proposed will be barely, maybe it undermines the likelihood that even
they will be met. Every Republican candidate, including Trump wants to eliminate the environmental
protection agency, Richard Nixon’s legacy, to cut back regulation to restart the press
of business quickly as possible. On militarism, every one of them wants to raise the huge
military budget, already over half of discretionary spending leading right now. It’s one factor
leading to confrontations which could be extremely hazardous and this again is not being discussed.
And briefly, I’d suggest one thing that you might agree with Donald Trump on would
be about the EU. He talks about the UK may leave the EU, you’ve railed against European
Union bureaucracy. Could you agree with him on that?
No I don’t. In fact I actually have no real strong opinion on Brexit but my concern about
it would be that it would weaken the European Union but it would also probably leave Britain
even more, don’t want to use too strong a word, subordinate to US power than it is
today. Which I don’t think would be a good thing for the world or Britain.
What in a nutshell is the answer to “Who rules the world now?”
As I try to discuss in the book, there is no simple answer. We usually think of states
when that question is raised and with regard to states there’s no doubt that the United
States, despite its decline for many many years, is still overwhelmingly more powerful
than any state or group of states. But that’s only one factor. States have internal structures.
An internal distribution of power. In the United States power is overwhelmingly and
increasingly, in recent years, in the hands of a very narrow sector of corporate wealth,
private wealth and power. And they have counterparts elsewhere who agree with them, who interact
with them largely and that’s another dimension in who rules the world. And there’s also
the public. The public can have, sometimes does have, enormous power. We can go back
to David Hume, first major modern work on political philosophy. Foundations on the theory
of government pointed out that force is on the side of the governed, those who are governed
have the force if they are willing to and eager to and recognise the possibility to
exercise it. Sometimes they do. That’s a major force in who rules the world.
But when it comes to state power, you don’t buy the idea of China as the next superpower,
the imminent superpower? China? I mean China plays a very important
role in the world undoubtedly. If you take a look at say per capita income, it’s far
behind the United States and other developed states. It has enormous internal problems,
demographic, ecological, resources and so on. It’s undoubtedly going to play an important,
in military terms it’s not even a fraction of the United States and Western powers. So
yes, economically it’s significant but bear in mind that a good deal of Chinese production
is actually far unknown. Apple, world’s major corporation happens to produce in China,
largely, but that’s US production which happens to use Chinese facilities, labour
and other facilities. So China is a growing, developing power, in some domains in fact
it’s gone quite far even in the high technology industry. So for example in production of
solar panels, China’s in the lead, not just in mass production but also in innovation
and high tech development. All of this is significant but it is by no means of power
on the scale of the United States. In fact take a look at the confrontations between
China and the United States now. There are serious confrontations. Are they in the Caribbean?
Are they off the coast if California? No, they’re in waters around China where China
and others have territorial claims. That’s symbolic reflection of the nature of state
power. Well you describe, scathing about the United
States, no one will be surprised to hear that. You described it as a leading terrorist state.
I’m just interested how you’d describe Russia.
How I describe Russia? Authoritarian, brutal, harsh. Carrying out ugly actions in its own
region. The United States on the other hand carries out such actions all over the world.
In fact again, look at the – there are serious confrontations between Russia and the United
States and once again are they on the Mexican border? The Canadian border? No, they’re
on the Russian border. In fact right at the point of the traditional invasion route through
which Russia has been virtually destroyed several times in the past century, also earlier
history. Again, that’s no apologetics for what Putin may be doing but it should lead
us to understand, have a rational perspective on the relationship between these forces in
the world. As for the U.S. being the leading terrorist state I should say that’s hardly
just my opinion. So for example I noted when I was introduced, the person who introduced
me said that I regard the United States as the gravest threat to world peace. That’s
not exactly, it a little misrepresents the situation. There are international polls run
by the leading U.S. polling agency, Gallop, its international affiliates Gallop/WIN and
one of the questions they ask is “which country is the greatest threat to world peace?”
and the United States is first by a huge margin. Far behind in second place is Pakistan, that’s
undoubtedly inflated by the Indian vote and others have slight mention, so that’s global
opinion. And I should mention that this was not even reported in the United States, happen
to be reported by the BBC but wasn’t reported in the United States. As for being a terrorist
state, President Obama’s global assassination campaign, draw an assassination campaign,
is extreme terrorist war. I mean if Iran, let’s say was carrying out a campaign to
assassinate people around the world who would thought might be planning to harm Iran, we
would regard it as terrorism. For example, if they were bombing the editorial offices
of the New York Times and The Washington Post which publish [ ] by prominent figures saying
that we should bomb Iran right now, not wait. So obviously they want to harm Iran. Suppose
Iran was assassinating them and anybody who happened to be standing around, all over would
we regard that as terrorism? I think we would. Let me put a few questions to you from people
online. People are sending in questions off our Facebook. First Gary says what are the
dangers of T Tip? Putin? The dangers are-
No, Sorry. What are the dangers or T TIP? The Transatlantic Trade Partnership? TTIP?
Oh, TTIP? They’re pretty extreme. In fact Greenpeace, a couple of days ago, released
280 pages of internal documents on this so-called trade agreement and they spell out details
of what all of us should know. The so-called free trade agreements are not free trade agreements.
In fact to a large extent they’re not even trade agreements. These are investor right
agreements. There’s a reason why they’re kept secret from the public and as soon as
you look them you see why. Notice I say secret from the public, not secret. They’re not
kept secret, they’re not secret to the corporate lawyers and lobbyists who are writing the
detailed regulations. Of course in the interests of their constituents, doesn’t happen to
be the public of the world or their own countries. So these are highly protectionist for the
benefit of private power, so-called intellectual property rights, effectively raise tariffs.
They’re called patents but which have an enormous impact on economies. Great, wonderful
for pharmaceutical and media court conglomerates and others. Investors, corporations are given
the right to sue governments, something you and I can’t do but a corporation can, to
sue governments for harming their future, potentially future profits. You can figure
out what that means and such cases already in the courts – they’re not in the courts
they go to private trade adjudication groups made up largely of corporate representatives.
They’re already going on with NAFTA and we can expect more of them. There are provisions
that undermine efforts at regulation including incidentally, regulation of environmental
dangers and rather strikingly the phrase “Climate Change” does not appear in these 280 pages,
which are illustrative of the whole structure. So they have almost no, I should say that
these agreements, so-called Pacific and Atlantic have virtually no effect on tariffs. Tariffs
are already quite low among the major trading partners. When you read the propaganda about
it, it says “oh yeah sure, Vietnam is going to have to lower its tariffs.” Yeah, almost
no effect on trade. The major trading partners already have agreements that have reduced
the terrorists very substantially. There are few exceptions, not many. So these are basically
– we should disabuse our self of the illusion that these are free trade agreements, anything
but. And to a large extent not even trade agreements. We have the experience of others
like NAFTA, many years of experience. So take say NAFTA, it has all of the aspects that
I just described but even more. Consider even what is called trade. Interactions across
the US-Mexico border, they’ve increased substantially since NAFTA. So economists will
tell you trade is greatly increased but have a look at them. So for example, suppose that
General Motors produces parts in Indiana, sends them to Mexico for assembly and sells
the car in Los Angeles. That’s call trade in both directions, but it’s not. Its interactions
internal to a command economy. It’s as if during the days of the Soviet Union, parts
were made, say in Leningrad, sent to Warsaw for assembly and sold in Moscow. We wouldn’t
call that trade. That’s interactions internal to a command economy.
Well Noam Chomsky, Thank you very much for being so generous with your time and for staying
on to have that live online discussion. Thank you.

73 Comments

  1. Jesus of Nazareth, King of the Jews says:

    Does this lady interrupt ALL of his answers !!!

  2. bruce clothier says:

    Yes the US is the greatest threat to world peace, as we should be. The rest of the world should fear us. Global warming is not scientific nor is it real. And yes we elected Trump because we are tired of the status quo. Noam Chomsky? A nobody that has no idea what an average American wants

  3. Ed Regener says:

    Climate change is false science

  4. Dewayne Miguel says:

    Nobody disagrees with climate change just on the reason the climate always goes through cycles taxing people isnt going to do a thingnature will take its course i remember the claim in the 70s were going into a ice age they will claim anything for money,

  5. Stephen Pirsch says:

    Maybe someday Chomski will do this on his own channel. He does not need an interviewer.

  6. Jamil Mohammed Abd-el-rahman Al-Ghazali says:

    Dr Noam Chomsky, is without a doubt is the most intellectual of the world. his mannerism is so easy to follow…Great man..

  7. Luke Horgan says:

    What an ugly approach to interviewing someone. To continually attempt to put words in someone's mouth in a feverish attempt to create a sensational soundbyte. Ugh. Chomsky's class and intellect exposes her sleaze without breaking a sweat

  8. Laura Franks says:

    3.50 instead of 'restart the press of business', it is 'race towards the precipice'

  9. the8walls says:

    Climate change – you lost me 2 minutes in. Noam the moan! Absolutely just discredited himself😂😂😂😂😂👍🏽

  10. Graham Houston says:

    Trump has done nothing wrong!! Leftists are drunk on their own delusional lies!

  11. richard smith says:

    The media asking "who rules the world" 😂 the people who pull your strings do

  12. starship trooper says:

    German Masons run everything. The 4th Reich started in the US in 1945.

  13. Troll Mctrollerson says:

    Jews…..next question

  14. np 1993 says:

    Just shut up and let the man speak.

  15. Mark Duggan says:

    To find out who rules over you find out who you can't criticize. Jew's!!!!

  16. Cosmos says:

    The Jews rule the world

  17. bravetherainbow says:

    It's so easy for people who aren't even American to identify the American government as "us" and countries like China and Russia as "them". It's also bullshit.

  18. gs 7 says:

    This woman is unbearable!!!

  19. Paul Slevin says:

    Their greed is about to backfire fire fire.

  20. Sanjay Maharaj says:

    If you need further convincing: the USA (the muscle for the European Banking Cartel) by direct and by proxy intervention kill 10,000 foreign civilians, in their homelands, a month!!!

  21. Veronica Obiglio says:

    Clinton is one of the worst

  22. George Bobb says:

    Very informative Noam . Incidently , i like your shirt. I have two of them.

  23. Henri boy says:

    I defer to your intellect Professor but who else would you prefer rule the world???
    You speak of multiple issues conspiracy of the wealthy , geopolitical military theory etc.
    What are the ways out,how does an above average wealthy American effect change or are you saying we are doomed as a species?

  24. Full Tilt Boogie says:

    The Evil Jews run the world duhh

  25. Elizabeth D. says:

    Read or listen to Dr. E Michael Jones. “The Jewish Revolutionary Spirit.” Book or interview about it on YouTube.

  26. Miami Drone says:

    https://youtu.be/cVkAsPizAbU

  27. Miami Drone says:

    https://youtu.be/mrpouWI4eEw

  28. Ethan Allen says:

    My grampa was just like this too.
    Dementia.

  29. TheLamp03 says:

    You wouldn't get the truth out of these Europeans/Wight people if their life depended on. The world needs to wake up because their time is nigh. “Then let them which are in Judea flee to the mountains; and let them which are in the midst of it depart out; and let not them that are in the countries enter thereinto. For these be the days of vengeance, that all things which are written may be fulfilled. But woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck, in those days! for there shall be great distress in the land, and wrath upon this people. And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled.”
    ‭‭Luke‬ ‭21:21-24‬ ‭KJVA‬‬

  30. William Paterson says:

    The interviewer should be ASHAMED of herself. She continually interrupted this great man and, NO doubt, she ALREADY had her own opinions (given to her by her bosses BEFORE this interview ) REGARDLESS of what Mr Chomsky had to say !

  31. Luis Cuartas says:

    There is only one way to fix the problem Created by this Monetary system… The Venus Project or Resource Based Economy, Money is no needed in an intelligent society lets go to www.resourcebasedeconomy.com or TVP www.thevenusproject.com With Love for Life on Earth, please pass the message

  32. Hillbilly ASMR says:

    I was excited to watch this until I saw who the interviewer was…

  33. W. R. Bagamaspad says:

    Russia rules the world now.

  34. medievalmusiclover says:

    What a wonderful Professor is Noan. God bless him and the real values of U.S.A.

  35. Jim Li says:

    this woman interviewer is an idiot, she interrupts all the time at the most important moment

  36. Scott Ranney says:

    He is a Communist

  37. albert reed says:

    I dispise people that can't shut up and can't let the people they're interviewing answer their question!

  38. A Mind With Heart says:

    The U.S. is the most powerful nation and it is ruled by global corporations. Global corporations would like to eliminate the power of nation states making the world one big Corporatocracy?? Is that a word?

  39. Jorge Ramirez says:

    I could tell you who runs America. But I'll let a Palestinian do it for me.

  40. issac brott says:

    Dribble,nonscence,perverted and dangerous as some idiots may actually believe him…

  41. Frank says:

    stagnation = death

  42. Lucky7777 says:

    This dude is a cia plant, his job is to feed you just enough info so the dissidents think he’s a responsible voice but he never truly 100% lets u in

  43. Zeek M says:

    Chomsky is a liar and a con man.

  44. Beatrice Nkundwa says:

    Noam Chomsky made his name in linguistics.

  45. khalid khan says:

    Pakistan is guaranty to peace and humanity. And safest country on planet.

  46. Nidhogg vom Walde says:

    The american dream is dead…

  47. Len says:

    The 15 richest family’s are white and Jewish! 😳 They each have $15 Trillion in their back accounts!

  48. Frederick Malouf says:

    Why didn't you ask him about Bernie?

  49. JohnnyTango111 says:

    Noticed how Noam Chomsky doesn't answer the question who rules this world? I think the reason is because he is a Jew. He knows very well who rules this world and it is the ones who own all the central banks around the world. It's the Zionist Bankers.

  50. Hazel Allen says:

    a lot has changed in 3 years

  51. Eddington J says:

    This turns my stomach.

  52. Burton Hollabaugh says:

    Chomsky real pos.

  53. VejyMonsta says:

    The reason the Republican party cannot agree on climate or environmental action is because of the influence of fundamentalist Christian ideals. Might is right and all other problems are simply an act of God. They simply believe that God's will is the law. Basically they are shifting the responsibility of fixing the real problems over, because it does not add immediate value like flexing your military strength does. They do not see the value of funding alternative renewable energy, because it does not make a product to export. Christian capitalist politicians are the fundamental issue in American politics.

  54. James Holder says:

    If Noam Chomsky says it then it is true. He is like a centralized government god. He states conclusions. I and you have no way of checking for truth. We are treated like sheep.

  55. Gary Esposito says:

    so…republican politicians are corrupt, surprised?

  56. Rodion Gulakov says:

    Why Chomsky did not migrate to USSR? Should have been his dream country?

  57. Alvin Wine says:

    The demonrats are far more dangerous , and have actually been caught with nukes ,the military stopped them but mainstream neverentioned it and barrak Obama aka Barry Soros tried destroying this country

  58. StarStuff says:

    My God, climate change and smelly Walmart voters for Trump – propaganda bs….these people are sick

  59. Fred Azbell says:

    Noam never disappoints. He is always on the right side.

  60. Kevin Morrissey says:

    ? Where on earth is there world ✌

  61. Zaneta Horvatovavavarenzanetavndor says:

    Vihotimtoutelamnovi

  62. Zaneta Horvatovavavarenzanetavndor says:

    Rulenanderenmencinverek

  63. Andrew Heffel says:

    I really hate this guy.

  64. Berliner Stadtschloss says:

    This woman should be slapped until she learns some decent behaviour.

  65. 天皇老子 says:

    Whoever rules the world should not be the concern of regular folks.
    Ambitions die and dreams perish.
    Find meanings in things however trivial to occupy your mind and be nice to your neighbors.

  66. The English man The English man says:

    Mass migration is over that's deport by mass

  67. Roll Out says:

    Democrats are only concerned about gender identity and Republicans are the biggest wimps. Case closed

  68. ray salmon says:

    God has the last word..

  69. Theo Fulk says:

    Representation, as we have witnessed in the last 60 years, has become MISREPRESENTATION of the People —who are now so infuriated with the arrogance of elitist politicians that they are on the verge of a new Revolution. Whether or not that is necessary hinges upon the further insolence, denial of Justice, denial of Accountability, the continued trend of BETRAYAL OF THE CONSTITUTION and our Bill of Rights as they've done.

  70. Theo Fulk says:

    He may be considered a sage in some political observations, but I lost any respect for Chomsky when I learned that he thought of the JFK murder/conspiracy as of little value. This country of baby boomers HAS PTSD from the very fact that the Deep State, since David Ben Gurion gave the order to kill JFK, and they have hidden this very fact for almost 60 years with every trick that MEDIA PROPAGANDA and secrecy could dish out!

  71. JAY 1981 says:

    What happened to the video
    Noam chomsky 1993 how the world works they took it down

  72. Bohemia Lite says:

    Who knew we would chosen to come to this earth who knew all this going on who knew we were put here on Earth to deal with all this who knew.

  73. friedrich nietzsche says:

    "Who rules the World now"? The Jews!!!

  74. TheLaymanIsland says:

    Cathy seems to always be fishing for provocative sound bites, trying to force words into mouths to validate some lose and confrontational tweetable statement. She appears invariably blinkered, divisive and off course

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